We checked shipping possibility from your port to our discharging port (Damietta Egypt) we found the following ;-
1. container loading is very expensive and we can not do .
2. we looking for Break Bulk loading for quantity about 3000m3 every single shipment , we checked the shipping companies from our side but they are not interest to load this cargo .
for your info, we can confirm immediately from 2500 up to 3000m3 board as follows;-
3.6mm = 200m3 @ $200
this price is FOB + $40 up to $42/m3 freight .
I will check the price tommorrow with shipping company. and for the FOB price I think it is really difficult for us . but anyway I will try my best to meet your target price. so I will quote you for CFR price tommorrow. Do you know any shipping companies that you are dealing with now? we can contact them.
the companies which we are dealing with are thoresen , cosco and hyundai ,
but unfortunately they refused to load the cargo from south china for that
we rely on you to find a suitable shipping company .
Re your offer and phone discussion,-
We can confirm the following ;
3.6 No sanding US$260.00 about 200m3
Kindly issue sales contract and send it back.
3000m3 one shipment is no problem if you can follow our market standard
thickness which I explained before 11/14/17/21/24mm .
17mm we can get about 800m3 .
11mm about 500m3 .
so we can easily manage 3000m3 .
but if you don’t do and we had to follow your thickness it will be according
to our yesterday e-mail .
hopefully you reconsider and revert with positive news to can start new long
1)the 9mm sanding board we quoted to you is our best price.and as we are sincecely to run a good business with you .we alaways quoted you our best price to you.also as you know ,our board is with good quality according to some other suppliers in china..even so ..our price is similar as the price of them..so I think our Products is more competitive than others and the board in your current market
2)11mm/17mm/ , the thickness above is difficult for us to produce.and the price is higher as we have quoted to you .if you can accept the price quoted ,,so we can produce for you.
3)anyway.I will check the cost again to see if it is possible for 11/14 to reduce some rate for you.
4)please re-advice the quantity can be ok for 9mm(ifpossible),12mm,14mm,15mm,16mm,18mm,25mm.
Re your below msg,
You have two alternatives,
A) 3.6 No sanding US$260 about 200m3
if we add 250m3 9mm @ $240/m3 the total quantity will be = 2250m3
B) 3.6 No sanding US$260 about 200m3
Total = 3000cbm
Kindly reconsider and cfm your favorite option
1)for 9mm,ok,we drop our profit,USD245.25 per CBM ,we only want to add this item to have the quantity to negotiate with shipping company,and it is very difficult to negotiate with shipping company with the quantity under 2500.and it is nearly impossible to negotiate under 2000CBM ,please confirm this price and do us a favor.
2)as we quoted you the CFR price based on freight price USD55.00.and this is quoted from a shipping company.but now they increased the freight to be USD68.00.a crazy rate.
so we must find another shipping company available on price USD55.00.it is very hard to confirm the freight with shipping company now.and we have been informed that now the freight market is hot due to the chinese exporting and oil shortage.
so we will try our best to reach the freight ,and run our business asap.but if we failed ,please participate the freight with us ..and if the freight out of bearing of both of us.we suggest to defer this order when the freight acceptable.please comprehend this point:the freight is out of our control……
3)about 11/17/21/24mm,,we may add0 these thickness in next order,we are considering produce these sizes for you only ,but we must run once business smoothly to persuade our inverstor.
4)can you inform me the Melamined or veneer or laminated paper MDF you want.we can add them into this quantity to make it up
Ok we will confirm your price for 9mm @ $245/m3 C&F .But now total quantity still 2250m3 can not be increase to 3000m3 unless you produce even only one thickness 14/17mmother operative to increase this volume 3.6mm/5.5/7.5mm to be sanded I/O no sanding so we can increase some volume of this .Freight increasment from 55 to $68 is too much we can increase just
$2/m3 .this will be workable for you or nor ??
now ,we have reached a good position in our business.but as we know..the only thing is the freight. the freight market is increasing now even in lianyungang,and it is out of control for both of us.we have negotiated with many shipping forwarder these days.and got the freight from USD66-75,still in negotiation.so now we suggest proceed our business in two ways first,please increase thefreight to definite USD60.00 per CBM,and we will responsible for the beyondof this price in practice.second,we accept USD57 for freight, but we only burden the risk of fluctuation within USD60.00,but if the freight is out of USD60.00 in practice.it will be born by yourside.. kindly confirm this point and inform me back..then I can send u the contract
Actually we can’t take the risk of freight fluctuations as it is completely vague for us, so we either buy on C+F basis and we don’t interfere in the freight matter at all or you ship the cargo from Lianyungang along with our other cargo.Please check and revert.
thanks for your email .wish everything goes well regarding your
comments,yes,I do understand and agree with your idea about the freight
fluctuations.the risk surely can’t be taken by buyers if in C&F terms.
On the other hand,for your information, we have negotiated with over 4
forwarders about the freight these days.they informed us that it won’t be a
economical way to ship the goods from Lianyungang port because it is too far
from our factory.
and forwarders also took their strong will to ship our cargos to your
port.but the freight was still firmly at USD66-68-72 around.they have quoted
their best price as it is in competition,so I think it must be confirmed at
USD65-66.00 per CBM.
otherwise.as we want to start a business in your country’s market, my
quotation are based on a “next to the cost-line price”..we wish our buyer
could promote our good MDF at a nice price,so our business can grow up
quickly in your competitive market.this is most important thing for a
factory like us.,we must carve our way out to survive…
Anyway ,In order to proceed our cooperation as soon as possible,please
support the freight to be USD 60.00 per CBM,then we bear the other USD 5.00
or 6.00 to settle the first shipment as soon as possible.